I just came across this article on picking up strippers. It’s a primer on why you should learn stripper game. Pretty interesting.
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Braddock just wrote an article on how to open mixed sets. Most guys avoid opening mixed groups because it seems like it would be extremely difficult. Although it seems scary, it’s really quite easy if you follow the steps in this article. I myself always had problems opening mixed sets when I started off. Now I’m pretty comfortable. It’s part of the game and everyone should know how to handle mixed sets.
One of the best things about mixed sets is that the girls in these groups rarely get talked to all night because most guys in the bar are to scared to open them. These are some of the best sets in the room if you know how to handle it.
Here is Braddock’s article: Dating Coach Braddock on: How To Open Mixed Groups
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Mambotango and I went to 3rd st Promenade yesterday to do some day game. It was a bad idea for me to go out. I was sick as a dog, coughing and sneezing every 5 minutes, but I promised him we’d go. Today I’m even worse off lol, it was bad idea to go out in the bloody sun. Oh well.
We did some damage on the streets but I wanted to focus on the hooters girl. We went to Hooters so I could show him how I do hired guns. It’s something I’ve been working on the last couple weeks. Stripper game I have pretty much handled now (although I want to find out how I can pull them the same night) but now I want to focus on girls who work in stores and waitresses. Once I have these girls on lock down, my next focus will be bartenders.
So my approach with waitresses is to immediately show that we are the “cool” guys. We sit down and our waitress comes over.
She is of course very friendly and all smiling. Instead of going with the flow, I want to go against the current (breaking rapport).
Her: Welcome to Hooters…blablabla….very friendly talk…
Me: (very friendly tone) Hi how is it going?
Her: blablabla
Me: (breaking tone) Can I talk to the manager?
Her: Sure, he’s right there.
Me: We want another waitress….ours is not smiling (pop out a big smile)
This works only of course when the girl is really friendly, almost to the point of super fake friendly, so I point out the opposite. Pointing out the opposite is something I do a lot. If she’s asian, I accuse of being black. If she’s super friendly, I accuse her of being grumpy. You get the idea.
Delivery is pretty key here. With bad delivery you just look stupid :)
Normally when I say “Can I talk to the manager” the girls get usually a bit offensive and say “why?”
It kinda threw me off when she said that he was right there, but I recovered well.
The reason I say that, or something with the same idea, is to get an emotional response as soon as possible. The worst case is to get indifference, like we just another customer. Any emotional response is better than indifference, because at least we have something to work with. You can always turn a bad response into something that reflects attraction. Indifference is when she is just “yeah, euhm ok, cool…” etc. So I want to test the waters as soon as I can with these girls. If she is indifferent, I’ll literally ask for another waitress hoping she is in a mode to be picked up.
So she laughs and I then I just act normal by ordering my drink. As she is leaving I ask her if they have the fried pig with an apple in his mouth on the menu. She says no and I accuse her of bad service with a big smile on my face.
She comes back with our drinks and then I again pop out something state based. When she walking towards our table, I made it really obvious as we were shit talking about her.
So I kept my hand to my mouth, leaned towards mambotango as if I’m about to tell him a secret, and said in loud way “oh no, here she comes!” so she could hear it, and then act normal.
She of course wanted to know what I said and I then accused her being snoopy. Then I saw she had an unique name and I motion her to sit down with us.
This is key to build some quick rapport. I already know I have maybe 2-3 minutes max with this girl, so I need to show her a normal side of me. I inquire about her name and apparently it meant “faith” in another language. She tells this long story about this and I show respect for it first. Then I break rapport by saying to mambotango: “Is she trying to impress us? Did it work for you?”
Basicly saying she is hitting on us.
What I usually like to say in that case is “yes I’m single.” Always gets a great response. Whenever a girl tells a long story, I show respect by smiling and nodding my head. Then I interrupt her later by saying “yes I’m single.” Again, setting the frame she is hitting on me. I could have done it in the above scenario too, but I wanted to try that above line. Seemed to work, gotta field test it more.
The key is calibrating teases with slight signs of interest. My teases sometimes can be really hard and on the edge (mambotango is 10x worse lol, he always is on the edge) so I calibrate that by always showing some sign of respect first and then a bit later on breaking rapport. That way you can don’t get the “mean” jerk or asshole feedback. The playful jerk or asshole feedback is usually what you want. Push/pull in essence.
Then I said something like “That’s really interesting.” Then I tell mambotango that I’m going to marry this girl. I do this ridiculous Vegas marriage where I at the end leave her broke in a casino.
Then I dismiss her by saying we need to some time to look over the menu. So I get the girl to sit down, build some quick rapport, spike her emotion and then dismiss her. I always want to her to leave on a high note.
We make our choices and she comes back. Also what is important is that I don’t want to set the precedence that I’m just the funny guy. So when she came back, I was just being normal and ordered my food. I’ll do this one of twice throughout the interaction.
She comes back with our food. I reel her in by doing an intrigue based routine. It was basicly a cold read on her being visual and creative. Well….apparently she was an artist. So that hit well. I inquire deeper about that and build a bit of rapport.
Mambotango then asked something about his food, it was missing something. I hold my hand on the side of my head to hide my eyes, in way I don’t want to be recognized by someone, and then say in way that I hope she won’t hear it (of course she does) : “oohhhh there goes her tip” and I look away. Then I immediately look at her all smiling so she knows it’s joke. Again, she leaves on a high note.
She comes back with some side for mambotango and we just act normal.
We finish our food and I know the next time she comes back, I’ll have her sit next to us and get another 2-3 minutes to do something. So she comes back and I can’t remember exactly what happened. We talked about something normal and then I transitioned into something state based. Basicly we got divorced and we were dealing with how to separate the properties. She leaves to get the check.
At this point I realized I didn’t give her a nickname yet. I want to use that for callback humor so I tell mambotango to initiate it since I calculated that he will be getting her number. Since I’ll be working and traveling the next couple of weeks I know I won’t have the time to work her. Even though I did all the work lol.
She comes back with the check. This is the time I know that he will have to get her number. He starts off by saying how if he was born a girl his name would have been Amber. He then asks what her name would have been if she was a boy. She doesn’t know so he names her Melvin.
Mambotango is gonna throw a poolparty so I basicly told her that and that she should come and bring her friends. I tell Mambotango to get her number and he #closes her. Since I’ll be gone for the next 2 weeks I hope he gets something done. Either he bangs her or some social circle. So mambotango, make daddy proud ;)
And then I realized I wrote way more than I wanted. Long post again.
+2 brownie points if you read everything.
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So I’ve decided to go out 5 days/week from now on. Two nights for stripper game (Tue+Wed) and Thu, Fri, and Sat for either night game, social circle game, or day game. But this week I’m going out 6 days and 3 of them have been to strip clubs. Past weekend I helped out at bootcamp which is pretty exhausting, but no pain no gain. So I gotta go out. Plus a bootcamp always gives me emotional momentum and extra will power (thank you frontal cortex) to go the extra mile to become better at game.
These past 3 days have all been to strip clubs. Every time I go to a strip club I try to work on a different technique; qualification is what I’m working on right now. Even though I felt like I wasn’t really on (fatigue) results wise it was pretty good. 2 solid #closes and one iffy #close.
6/22
Nobody wanted to go out so I decided to hangout with one of my stripper FB at work (this is the BORING one I wrote about). I get in and she wants to hang out with me on a couch. This club has several couches which are really comfy.
I just laid down and she laid next to me for ~3 hours. We would kiss (out of sight of the management) once a while. In my LR I wrote how boring she was, but I actually got to know her a lot better at the strip club. Funny how that works. She is less boring now over the couple times I’ve been with her. Still boring sometimes, but it’s manageable :)
Once a while when a guy came in I would dismiss her to make money and call her back when she was done. While she was gone I would pull out my phone, text and email, and do random surfing or I would talk to another stripper. The management has no problem guys pulling out their phones, which is nice for a change. I felt like I was at a friend’s place hanging out and waiting.
The point was that having my stripper there all cuddly gave me “insider” status inside the club. No other stripper would try to get a dance from me. One stripper tried to get a dance but once I told her I was with my stripper, she immediately started apologizing herself and be normal. She would then just kill time with me and tell me all this insider stuff.
All strippers wanted to hangout with me and just shoot the shit when they’re not groping up guys. It was really easy just talking to them. Almost too easy. I would break down their stripper game and give them some tips for making money. My girl confirmed (who I gave some tips before) told them that it was true and she made some more money. I couldn’t get a better endorsement than that and I was “in.”
One thing that was really interesting was to see how these girls thin slice guys. As me and three girls were laying on the couch, every guy that came in got some comment. So how you dress and carry yourself is really huge.
It’s too bad my girl is not bi-curious. I #closed one girl there to hangout with my girl for social circle gaming. I’m not planning to fuck this girl, but to genuinely make her my friend and pick her brain on how strippers and strip clubs work. She will also be my second gatekeeper to other girls in the club. Especially for new girls coming in. I like the prospect of this.
This club is my new little social circle. Is this my classy or slutty tree? Hmmm…. ;)
6/23
Me and mambotango hangout at a bar before we head over to the strip club. We go over the game plan but I tell I’m way too tired. We get in and separate so we get more approaches. I’ve never been to this club but it’s full with 9s and 10s. I like it. But the first two girls that came up were all business. It thought it was gonna be a rough night so I came to sit next to mambotango. We shoot the shit for a bit till we both got approached and seated a stripper. I was talking to a hot blond, he was talking to a hot brunette. Game time.
My girl: fit, white, DD, plaid pink mini skirt, and an ass to die for. Vida Guerra would have been jealous. She also had piercings on her dimples. Hot.
I immediately hook my stripper by disqualifying myself hard. The whole time I was in my head. I was too tired to really do anything so my interaction fazed as it went on. Continually I was thinking…what should I say next. But for some reason she kept listening to me. At some point, like 10-15 min or so, she asked me what kind of girls I like.
I was really thinking about this question. My fatigue fucked me over that I had to think about these sort of tests. Was I still in attraction? Or can I show my hand in comfort? Normally I can feel this, but this time I was literally thinking in front of her. Funny when I look back at it. Can’t remember what I said, but I know it didn’t kill the interaction. So it was good (enough).
I tell her why I like dating strippers. She tells me more insider knowledge. I get her real name (good waypoint). She is qualifying herself like mad but my qualification game on her was really poor. Poor.
I do strawberries field but I never continue pushing the sexual frames. She keeps hinting I should see her past closing time. I totally agree.
About 45-50 min I decide to go for the #. It’s about 12:30 and I’m about to fall asleep. One of the first thing I noticed how strict the security at this place is. Like…really tight; I was observing from the moment I walked how many security people were there. This makes #closing very difficult because strippers usually can’t be seen to give out their number. They can give it (technically) but not be seen giving them out.
So I tell her to save my number. She saves it under my name and as she was about to call me a security dude walks near us. I’m fucked. She tells me she would call or text me after she leaves the club.
At that moment what I should have done was get a dance and #close her in the booth. I’ve done it before. I still don’t know why I didn’t do that. Fucking stupid!
My timebridge for meeting outside the club was really weak. I drop off mambotango and head home. It’s about 1:15am now. Last time I lost a lay when a girl called me after the strip club and I was asleep. I didn’t want that to happen again. Also, you want to close it while it’s hot. An old sales principles that applies to pickup. So I actually waited for her to call/text me till 2.30. So the workaholic I was I got some work done. Nothing happened at 2.30 so I went to bed. In the morning, also nothing. Too bad. It felt weird knowing I didn’t have any control over the situation. I had to wait for her action.
I should have stayed till closing time and bounced her. But since I was so tired I wasn’t sure if I could game her that long. In the end, I might have made the wrong choice. Live and learn.
6/24
Me and mambotango head out to a new venue. I’m excited to visit new strip clubs….waiting for new talent like the night before. We get in and this club is really sneaky laid out. It has a bar with two poles with a stripper and then near the stage are only seats. Plus the speakers are around the stage and loud. Pretty tough environment. I only get one approach and she was all business.
We leave after we see all the other dudes snagged the girls. There were more dudes than girls so that worked against us. We bounce to the next venue and get there around 12:45am. They close at 2 so it’s perfect for some stripper game on steroids.
We sit next to each other and just wait. I get two approaches but they went nowhere. The third one hooks. This half German/Filippino, C cup, black dyed hair, fit girl sits next to me. She is immediately friendly and my auto response is: “You’re so bubbly. That’s nice for a change,” and then stack with looking disinterested.
I noticed lately I’ve been using a lot of push/pull in set. I verbally disqualify myself hard in the beginning and then just mix intrigue and state attraction sprinkled with some teasing. Mambotango has been analyzing my game all he saw making me girls laugh a lot. But it was more sprinkled. It’s more like normal convo, push/pull, normal convo, normal convo, push/pull, normal convo. But my normal convo is not BORING; it’s full of DHVs and bait. I don’t think of in terms of attraction switches but interesting stuff that pertains to my life and giving her enough bait to build commonalities.
I turn off her stripper mode and off we go into rapport. Since we both grew up in Europe, I could build wide rapport on range of subtopics. It was also a way for me to build a bit of a conspiracy; two Europeans living in the US and making fun of them.
Since I knew the club could close any minute I had to think way in advanced what the next steps were. I run some heartmelter, tell her why she’s awesome besides her looks (this girl actually has brains), tell her I met her for a specific reason, and then seed an event. Seeding several events is a great way to gauge how the stripper is down to see you again, but I was under time constraint so I had to crack it fast.
I tell her I want to take her out and we should exchange numbers. We pull out phones with our bodies close to each other to hide it bit. She saves my name and # and calls me. Gotcha. She immediately leaves; “Call me sometime. I’ve got to go back make some quick money.” And we parted ways.
I should have gotten the logistics before the number, totally forgot about that. What days does she work? What nights is she free? etc. Based on that info timebridge and #close. Next time.
I texted her half an hour later to see if she was down for an adventure but she responded to me back the this morning. Gotta close this one asap!
I think I’ve should have tried to go for the bounce since we were nearing closing time. But she left abruptly (partly I think because she was afraid the management saw us with our phones) which fucked it up. Also my car was back in Pasadena and they can’t have cars past 2am or they will get towed. Oh well.
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Going to strip clubs 3 days in a row really showed me a lot. I said to myself that once I can #close pretty consistently I’m going to try to bounce girls. For that to work I would have to go way later, like 1-1.5hr before closing time to give myself enough to get some approaches and one set to run. I’m going to try that around August I think. I still want to iron out some chinks I have.
What I’ve noticed though is that as soon strippers talk to me for longer than 5 minutes, they know they’re not getting a dance from me. Little things like “I’ll be right back, I’m going to make some money”, ignoring 2for1 specials, and not asking me for a dance ever made me realize that. Even when they leave and come back, they never ask for the dance. I think it’s because of the disqualification and preselection of dating strippers before.
Practicing stripper game is a good complement to your game. I think everyone should try it for a while. I remember the first couple of times where I could barely run my mouth for 10 minutes and was nervous as fuck around some girl in fishnets. Now I feel like I’m in my bedroom with some lights, music and half naked ladies that want something from me and I can just talk to them for hours if I wanted. I wonder how long I can keep this stripper infatuation going on. I’m an addict. Urgh. Or not ;)
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Yesterday I was helping out at a day game 1on1. Kisser is one of the day game masters we have and this guy is a beast! It was so awesome to see this guy infield and do his thing. He broke my reality of what is possible in the day time. I try to model Soul’s day game method and style because we are very similar personality-wise. It’s very laidback and chill whereas Kisser is high energy. Somehow he can pull it off consistently.
Usually in the day time you want to limit the touching escalation but Kisser showed me how you can escalate like you are in a club. It was amazing to see how he would escalate; romantically hugging a girl from behind, pulling their hair, and kissing. I’ve seen day time kisses (yes, on the lips) before but Kisser makes it look so smooth. He ran this 4set by himself, they gave him free pizza, and he kissed one of the girls in front of her friends. I was observing from a distance and was really impressed how this guy, who used to be an introverted computer geek, pull off crazy stuff like that.
Then he ran this 2set by himself and the girls were literally fighting who was going to get with him. Again he escalated on both girls; pulling their hair, body to body rubbing, romantically touching. The jealousy plotline was so good. Seriously sick. And the girls were on the clock too because they were supposed to be working.
Last time my day game reality was shattered was when I was hanging out with Soul, Kisser, and Keychain at the LA Day Game workshop. They showed me how you can use wings in the day time. At first I was really skeptical. Wings in the daytime? But then when Soul and I did some sets together….man that was so money. We did so many more sets and doing group sets in the daytime is not a pain in the ass anymore. It’s actually fun! Now that I’ve seen Kisser pull off his stuff, I want to learn how to do that. He really showed how you can do groups by yourself. So next time I’m going to do day game, I’m going to escalate like a mofo and push it.
New day game goals:
-Pulling girl’s hair (10x)
-Day time kisses (5x)
-First Same Day Lay (1x)
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Too busy with school. Got finals coming up but after that I’ll have no school for a year. Wooooo! Back to studying…..
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It’s no secret I like practicing stripper game. Sunday I had a stripper come over and it was so good that I decided I wanted more. So Monday night I went out to another strip club trying to get myself another one! I typed this up so hopefully someone will get some benefit out of stripper game. There isn’t that much info on it so maybe this helps.
Megatron pussies out so it’s me and one guy I’m taking out a lot now. So we went to this strip club and got seated. The club was packed for a Monday night and I had the worst seat ever. My wing has the best seat and of course he got over 10 approaches. I had maybe 4-5 approaches because some non-moveable table was blocking me. Very frustrating. The location of where you sit is so key; it can make or break your night.
After warming up on some girls I really didn’t feel like it that night. I didn’t get the hottest girls approach me so I was just reluctant gaming the ones that did approach. There were so many hot girls in this place and I got stuck with the over stock girls. Then this hot girl approaches me and I fix my body language. I find out she’s half mexican half italian, C cup, black hair. Within 30 seconds I know I can #close this girl. When a stripper approaches me I throw out some stuff and I want to see how she responds. If she doesn’t laugh, I know the stripper is all business and I would be wasting my time gaming the girl. But if she responds laughing or plays along with me, I know I can #close if I play the cards right.
Same thing again; mustache opener and disqualifying myself by saying I’m a virgin with the whole backstory on it. She asks me what I do and I ground my identity. As I’m grounding she gets called on stage. FUCK. I think I’ve lost her. But then I try again to tip the stripper when she’s on stage in order to hint that she should come back. Yes, in fact, couple minutes later she does come back. This has worked on 2 strippers now. But I’ve only done this to strippers I really wanted to get and where I knew I had a chance. So I continue with gaming.
I have this new piece that I’ve been testing and it works really well. It’s basicly what abundance mentality is when it comes to dating; so I say stuff like that I don’t believe in “the one” and that your reality is basicly a little fish bowl that limits you the amount of “right” people you can meet. In it I add some deeper cold reads on how she knows a lot of guys but she has guys lingering around that she shouldn’t have in her life. That in itself transitions into the piece of “you are like the 6 people around you” and I go really deep really fast within a couple minutes.
I break the tension and I’m off into showing that I know her world and that I’ve dated strippers before. This goes on for like 10 minutes. I’ve been working on this part of stripper game for a long time, at least 5-6 strip club visits. Now it’s pretty good. Then I’m into qualification and I try to bait her first by doing some third person framing. So I say stuff like “I can’t stand flaky people” and I want to see if she qualifies herself on the bait. If she does, I know I’m doing well. I remember I was complimenting her on her energy and we talked a bit about the feeling of living in the moment. Gotta love Tolle stuff.
I had a waitress coming back a couple times and I used to hate them because they would fuck up my game. But now I’ve found the perfect answer: “Not yet” and then keep on talking to the stripper.
So now I’m like 45-50 minutes in and she says she wants to see me again. I tell her okay, finish my story and then grab her number. I pull out my phone and tell her to punch it, but she refuses. She’s scared she might get caught because if they did it would be considered prostitution and we would get in trouble. Then she grabs her phone in her purse and I tell her to call me. Lucky me….her phone dies when she’s taking my number.
So I tell her that we should go in the booth and swap numbers there. What’s good was that all this didn’t put her back into stripper mode so I knew she was really into me. So I ended paying $20 to #close this girl, but I got also 3 lap dances. Good deal!
We get out and I continue talking to her. Then I’m teaching her stripper game. Well…sort of. I basicly tell her how my ex-gf would approach guys and cash out. This was mostly bullshit stuff because I just told the reverse engineered stuff strippers did to me to get a lap dance. But it’s a new routine now I want to field test more because it gives me a lot of threads I can branch off into. So I talked a lot about psychology and sales, how they work together, push-pull, attraction….basicly a lot of pickup stuff. The fun part was when I told her all that stuff and I commanded her to try it on a customer. So she did and on the first guy she convinced him to get a lap dance. She would come back later and I would give her feedback. LOL. It felt like it was a bootcamp hahaha.
I bought her a drink and she gave me some insider info. Basicly the bar will charge you double if you buy the stripper a drink and strippers can never refuse an offer. But if you buy it for yourself, they charge you regular price (and then of course you can hand off the drink to your stripper). I didn’t know this so I thought that was very interesting.
It was so on and we both had a really good time that I didn’t feel like texting her the same night. The next day I texted her. She called me back and we’ll meet up later this week. She’s here only for a few days to work at this one strip club location before she goes back a couple hours up north. So I’ve got to close this soon.
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I don’t think I’ve ever met a girl before who was REALLY boring. I really had to force myself to close this girl because she was just boring and not really hitting my attraction switches. Well not completely true; her body is a divine that needed to be explored. I just needed to overcome some hurdles and mentally force myself to do it.
So Thursday night me and my buddy, who I haven’t seen in a while, want to hangout at a strip club. I buy him his first lap dance ever and we were just genuinely hanging out. Normally I’m in strip joints to game but that night it was really secondary.
At some point I’ve talked to some strippers and then this one asian stripper joins us. 5′7, dyed brown hair, ivory and smooth skin. 20yo. Very nice. I bridge into the mustache opener to take over the conversation but she had to go up on stage when I was about to transition into another piece. At this point I thought I lost her. Since I didn’t see other strippers I was interested in, I thought, let me break the cardinal rule and try to get her back by spending some money. So I go sit on perv row and ended up tipping her $5. I go back to my seat. Few minutes later, low and behold, she comes back. It worked! Sometimes breaking the rules, the ones I learned at the strippers and hired guns seminar, are meant to be broken. Of course everything is the 95% rule. I guess that time the 5% worked. (For those who don’t know me, I’m a really dogmatic person so I rarely “break” the rules.)
When she came back, I got into the old routine stack I’ve been using on strippers. Every night my calibration towards strippers is getting better. At this point I need to work on my qualification game on strippers, but I didn’t prepare anything for that night. So I just tried to recall what I’ve learned. This girl is like no other stripper when it comes to spiritual and woo-woo stuff. We talked about signs and I saw on stage earlier that she had a Scorpio tattoo on her lower neck. I’m a Scorpio too so I told her how passionate I was and of course she could relate to that. Then she told me a really deep story on why the sign is called Scorpio. Let me tell you, that story lasted like 10 minutes and it involved many gods, creatures, and adventures. Since I’m not really into that, I kind faked interest but rewarded her accordingly. Maybe I should have listened because it could be an awesome routine for myself :)
I run all the other mish mash like me telling her to turn off her stripper mode for a sec, anger vs passion, 28k days, and talking about my ex-gf strippers. With this girl I talked a lot throughout the interaction how I dated strippers and why I preferred dating them. She also taught me a lot insider info that I could add to my own arsenal to show I know the stripper world for future strippers, e.g. why they don’t wear glitter because it leaves a trail wives can find out.
About 45 minutes in I run the piece by Braddock where you say you’re a spiritual person and you believe that every person you meet is for special reason. Oh man. I’ve tried that piece several times before but this time I used way later in set. I used to run it about 25 min in but it didn’t hit. But this time it was like dynamite. I saw her facial expression change and she kept on talking how happy she was meeting me that night. Damn that shit is dangerous!
Immediately after that I went for the number. I seeded earlier with a private modeling party I was going too. She liked it earlier so when I went for the number I timebridged it. Now what’s interesting is that when I handed her my phone, she punched it in and called herself. But after that immediately she was back into her stripper mode and asked if I would buy her a dance later. I responded, “yeah of course….”. I’m still not sure why she asked me that. Another interesting thing is when I asked her “Under what name should I save it, [stripper name] or …..”. She basicly said she doesn’t give out her real name and every calls her by her stripper (=nick) name. Normally when a strippers tells me her real name that’s a good sign so it kind of threw me off at that moment.
Then I remember I was telling her a story on how I went to the US for the first time. I was six and my parents just had enough money to send me over by myself. I’ve tried to run this story several times but this time I rephrased some parts of it and it worked this time. So now I have my own heart melter, or warm+fuzzy comfort routine.
BTW, this girl didn’t talk that much at all. I had to do most of the talking and trying to throw out hoops barely worked. I tried stuff like “Tell me something interesting about yourself” or “What were you like in high school” and she gave me half ass answers. So I changed it up and started to force frame things. I remember at one moment I said something like (paraphrased) “You know what, I can tell you’re holding back something but I can sense it’s something interesting. It’s your vibe that’s giving it away. Behind that adorable face there is something and I’m going to dig it out and cherish it. I don’t know yet what it is, but I’m going to find out. You’re so mystique, I like that.” I came up with it on the fly, partly because she wasn’t talking much, but damn it hit big time.
So now I’ve been talking to her for about an hour and I tell her I wanted to go somewhere private with her. My view on this is me showing that I appreciate her time because I know she has to make money. Since we already agreed to see each other again and I got her number, I wasn’t worried on becoming one of her regulars. She tried to get us a private booth for a regular lap dance price but the manager wouldn’t let us. Damn. I can only imagine what would have happened if we did have one. It could have been deja vu. So we went to a booth where no one was there. She started taking her clothes off and dancing. At one point she spread her legs for me and I couldn’t resist it. I started playing with her clit with my hands and “accidently” slipped my fingers inside her. Damn she was tight. I took it out, spit on my fingers and put it back in. Then another stripper and customer walks in and do their thing. At that moment I pulled out and she continued with her routine. I wish they didn’t come in because I might have gone animalistic again and flopped my cock out. Oh well, these are all “IFs…..” After 4/5 songs I got up and told her I was gonna text her so we could meet up some time.
Me and my buddy leave the club. I tell him to hi5 me but he knew something was fishy so he didn’t. Haha, almost got him there. We get some food and I text my stripper: “Hey sweetie text me when you get home safe. -[my name]” and a few minutes later she responded with some long text. Nice.
The only thing I should have done more was establish things where I could use more callback humor.
Date
I did some texting with her the following days and she was the one who wanted to see me again. If The Don was right, dates with strippers are no problem. This time he was wrong LOL.
Sunday night she drives over to my place and the first thing I see is her bare belly. Sexy. But then I noticed she was wearing skinny jeans. FUCK. I forgot to tell her to wear a skirt. But in the back of my mind I was still confident I was going to close this girl. She was wearing her stripper shoes except they were white instead of clear :)
On the way to the bar I ask her what she does when she’s not stripping. She says she does volunteering work for Caltrans. At the moment I was impressed but I did my research later on. Apparantly people who have been convicted or have some sort of probation violation get assigned that sort of work. Later on the night it would make more sense. She also doesn’t go to school and I know she has been stripping for about 2 years now. This girl really has no life.
That becomes more obvious as the night went on. We went to my favorite bar and we had some drinks. She didn’t like 2 drinks she tried out. Great way to start a night. Then I did the question game on her and she asked me all those relationship questions. Since I’m not looking for one, I kind of had to dodge them a bit.
Then she would ask me about my dirty laundry. I think that was a test when I think about it later. Since she probably had a juvenile past she wanted to see if I was like that too. I basicly said something like that I never had to steal or do something bad because there was no need for it. Not sure if it was the right answer because at that moment I didn’t realize it was a test.
I sexualized the date a bit with me whispering in her ear and kissing her neck. At this point we haven’t kissed yet at all. The sexual stuff was more the actions and the undertone of it rather than the full frontal thing like kissing.
The only weird or awkward moments were whenever she had to take a smoke outside the bar. I don’t smoke so I just stood outside with her talking. It was kind of weird. I tried to make not a big deal out of it, but it just looked weird to me. I felt like we couldn’t share an experience because one smokes and the other doesn’t. So I just cracked some jokes to keep it light and do the deep stuff when I can touch and whisper in her ear inside the bar.
Still at the bar she is not talking much. I really had to do most of the talking and that was no fun. Every question was answered by a 5 year old. Again I just force framed the crap out of her. After we left the bar I just said to go back to my place and watch a movie. She agreed. Usually when I go back to my place, I can already sense or tell sex is likely going to happen. This girl, I seriously could not read.
But once we got in my room, it was actually really easy. There was no need for another drink or some other BS to get her into my bed. She just said “go lay there and take your pants off….” I was like, “yes mam.” Damn. She was good. This is my third stripper and hopefully many more to come. The Don is right. All strippers know how to please a guy and playing out your fantasy with these girls is awesome :)
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This is something that has been on my mind for a while. I like to see “game” as a lifestyle where beautiful women are naturally attracted to. Not just being able to pull a girl every night you can, but where you live a life where you are really happy (health, wealth, relationships).
Sometimes I think people are too caught up with going out every night and trying to improve their skillset. I do think it’s the fastest way to improve your dating life by going out a lot and practice. You will get kisses, phone numbers, lays, and so on. I understand some people want to take care of this part of their life as soon as possible by doing it within a certain amount of time. Once that’s taken care of, other areas of life will be taken care of.
Take for example school. You are a student with good grades. You discover the seduction community and you start going out a lot, like 4/week. Your grades go down, but at least you improve your dating life bit by bit. Is it worth it? Depends of course per person. I personally would rather have a lower GPA and have a cool life, than have a 4.0 with a shitty life. But if you can have a 4.0 and a cool life, that’s even better.
What I’m trying to say is try to balance everything. If you are a 4.0 student, but your dating life sucks, then try to keep that 4.0. But gradually start to incorporating ways you can improve your dating life WHILE keeping that 4.0. I still regret the times where I dropped responsibilities for going out. My grades went down a bit, I lost clients, and friends because I wanted to improve my success with women. Some might say that you have to sacrifice certain things to achieve a goal. I now realize that you can improve your success with women while maintaining the success you have in other areas and without losing other responsibilities. Now I don’t kick myself anymore for doing other things than going out to practice game. This doesn’t mean that you should stop going out or use this as an excuse for not going out.
If you are doing something that will help you in anyway, please by all means do it. Jacking off or staying at home doing nothing does not count. But if you have a project due within a short amount of time and you will be working on it instead of going out, that counts. Again, there has to be a balance for this. If you keep doing this for 4 weeks straight with zero approaches, then you are just making excuses for yourself not to go out.
Learning game is like a marathon, not a sprint. You will have plenty of time to improve your life and it does not have to happen within a certain amount of time. Put in the effort and success will come.
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