Woohooo! Okay so today me and Maui went to this outdoor mall and got some more footage of our whack opener. It’s actually an opener my buddy Rince came up with a while back. It’s for moving sets because it forces them to stop and then you just deliver your opener and stack. So far it has failed only once out of maybe 20 sets. Have fun doing it!
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I got a lot of PMs from people wanting to see the video with BradP and Sinn at the PUA Summit 2008. Unfortunately I can only release the audio version of it, so here it is.
So BradP talked about frame control and how to handle congruence tests. One way to do it is by agreeing with the test, absurdify it, and then get back to your thread. He explains an exercise you can do with your wing(s) and eventually Sinn comes on stage. O…M….GOD…. It’s funny :)
If you want to see it on video, you’ll have to buy the PUA Summit 2008 DVD that’s coming out in a few months. Till then, have fun with the audio!
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These clips are from the PUA Summit 2008. Mehow gave an awesome presentation and showed some cool stuff. Here are some routines he gave out. If you want more then check out the PUA Summit DVD that’s coming out.
Handshake
Ass Slap
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So I called El Topo earlier this week and I wanted to hear him motivate me. As some of you guys know, I have one of his infamous theREDstack, a routine stack based on your own life. I still need to write a review on it, but I can tell you it’s awesome. It elevated my game to the next level and I’m sure it can still help me out more. Since I only know 40% of the stack, I still miss out a lot of the stack.
Also, since I was so focused on memorizing those frames, I started losing my skills in basic pickup, like approaching and group theory. I was comfortable if I was 1on1 with a girl, theREDstack is just so money. Getting isolation is SP of mine and Sexual Chocolate already helped me out last Sunday on that with my free 1on1 with him. Because I didn’t make any progress lately, I wanted someone who has been through this process to motivate me. Someone who can relate to me, identify my real sticking points, and tell me what to do. Since I already worked with El Topo, and having Sinn as one of my favorite PUAs (they work together), I knew ET was the man to talk to. So we setup a FREE (yes, free) phone consultation.
After having a fuck buddy, my game has been really lousy. ET shared his story and told me that it’s normal. He gave me some good insight, and the more he talked, the more things started to click. He noticed that I need some structure in learning pickup and I could totally agree with him. He gave me some more pointers and what to do for the next couple of weeks.
After the call, I was so pumped up that I called random wings to go out with me and hit some bars. I was motivated and still am. I’m looking forward to work more with ET in the future. He really cares about his students and that is something I can really appreciate. When talking to him, I felt like I was talking to a friend, not someone I don’t know. Thanks ET!
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State of Mind
Woohoo I would go the Highlands for free. Gotta love my wingman D for hooking me up. Again, I wanted to approach the hottest girls in the club. No time for moderate looking girls, I want hot monkey sex with the hottest girl in the club.
Goal of the Night
It was simple: neg girls. Most of the time I would have to neg them on the opener so I can at least plow to reach the hookpoint. But sometimes I went a little bit too far and I started insulting girls. I had to find the limit, how far could I go?
Progress of My Goal
Me and D noticed that we were getting AA for the super hotties. Everything below a 8 was no problem, we did some sets. But as soon we saw a HB, we froze up. After an hour we still didn’t approach the HBs so me and D setup a mission. Neg 10 girls in 5 mins. Easy right? Damn, it’s actually harder than I thought it was. First of all, we wouldn’t use stock negs. Every neg was improvised so that made it a bit harder. El Topo told me many times that you need some stock negs to keep their state, but the so called ‘neg openers’ where unfamiliar to me. I mean, I can open with “are those nails real?” but that wasn’t cool enough on my cool-o-meter.
I also noticed that I avoided mixed sets. I was afraid I would get kicked. So the first mission I only did like 4 girls. Trying to find all girls sets with super hotties is rare, they are always surrounded by guys. In theory, I knew this, but actually realizing it is another thing. It’s in my unconscious treasure chest now.
Second drill, I did little bit better by negging 6 girls. I started to become more creative but still avoided mixed sets.
Third drill, 8 sets. Woohoo, I see improvement but not the ultimate goal of 10 yet.
Sometimes I was a real ass and I started insulting girls. I needed to find how far I could go, it wasn’t really negging anymore but really insulting girls. Some of the cool negs that I came up with:
How many animals did you kill for that? (girls wearing animal print)
Wow, my grandma has the same dress!
OMG, that girl over there has the same necklace….so not cool.
Is that a wig?
Your hair is fucking fake!
Girl, be easy on the lipstick. Let me wipe that.
Girl….you look damn hot tonight…but the hair has got to go. (push-pull opener)
That hair is freakish long it’s like the lion king.
Best Set of the Night
I honestly can’t remember.
Worst Set of the Night
“Oooh watch out, someone just got out of jail” I said this to a girl wearing black/white horizontal stripe dress. She looked at me, devious facial expression, and called her friends to back her up. I put a big ass smile on my face and walked off.
Probably not the worst, but definitly the most memorable.
Sticking Points
Approaching SHB and having a high value attitude about it. I come in really passive and my BL shows that too.
Goals for Next Time
Keep negging girls and then try to plow to reach the hookpoint.
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It has been a while that I’ve gone out on Thursday nights. This was due to the fact that there were no 18+ events on Thursdays, so I decided to go day gaming on Thursday and relax at night. But that has changed, now there are multiple 18+ events on Thursday again so I’ll be out a lot more now.
State of Mind
I was excited to be out on Thursday night again. We would go to a club in Hollywood where most of our sarging crew hasn’t been to yet. I was pumped to open sets inside, knowing that the girls in there are hotter and harder.
Goal of the Night
Open all the hot girls and not caring if that would destroy my social value. A lot of times I avoid sets because they are either inconveniently situated or “I need higher social value in order to open that girl” mindset. There are of course moments where it might more strategic to open a girl later, but you might not see her later on. So really my goal was to open every hottie in the club, no matter what.
Progress of My Goal
I opened a lot of sets that night, and I approached most of the hot girls in the club. Not all, but most. I was an approach machine and girls could see me shark, looking for targets. Again, I didn’t care if my social value would go down. It was all about getting that AA I have for really pretty girls. I can approach < HB8.5 easily, but the hotter they get (and higher social value they have) the more intimidated I get.
Best Set of the Night
This was my best set of the night, with this girl, who I got a picture with. She was one of the hottest girls in the club and I happen to be having a good time with her too. I just got blown out by a 2-set and a mixed set of 6 people is adjacent, but then she leaves that mixed set to go to the bar. I open her, with loud music on the background, and I have to plow to get past the opener. Within 20 seconds I lean against the bar and start running my attraction game: story, banter, cold read. It doesn’t really hit hard when I try to qualify her with medium hoops, so I know I didn’t have that strong attraction. As a result, she is body rocking to go back to her friends, but I show some neediness by telling her to stay. We vibe for another 5-6 minutes and then she leaves me standing there by myself against the bar.
I reopened her later that night, but I never got her fully qualified. It’s hard to do verbal game when the music is very loud. I didn’t get much compliance from her to isolate to some quiet environment, so again no attraction.
Worst Set of the Night
I can’t remember what the worst set was. No MAJOR blowouts, maybe some sets where I didn’t reach the hookpoint.
Sticking Points
In the beginning of the night I would peck since I wasn’t used very loud environments. I’m not sure if I pecked later on in the night. Keeping a girl’s attention in a loud environment is definitly something I need to work on. On patios and lounge areas I can keep a girl’s attention, but when it’s loud it’s very hard. The next shining object is my enemy.
Goals for Next Time
Taking more risk. I usually play it safe when it comes to running sets: I don’t isolate enough, not being dominant, keeping my frame, and kino escalation. The loud environment made my verbal game a lot harder, time to fix that.
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State of mind
It was saturday night and I felt like I could take over the world. I felt good and I wanted to be out infield doing sets.
Goal for the Night
Opening and transitioning flawlessly. Sometimes you need to move few steps back in order to move forward. Last month my opening and transitioning was just off for some reason, so I revised my openers and transition material. Once I have that fixed I can run my normal game again, because I know my attraction and comfort game is good.
Other goals were merging all my sets. We decided to do this as a crew. Our longterm plan is to own every venue we go to by acting like social networkers in order to get massive social proof. The plan was to merge EVERY set you were in AND you could only merge a set if your wing was in a set too. If your wing wasn’t in set, then you had to work your set on your own.
Progress of your Goal
I didn’t merge any set. Most of the time I didn’t see my wings near me so I didn’t come up to me to merge a set. Second, group theory is still a sticking point of mine but that night I handled big sets pretty well so I wanted to go the extra mile running them.
Best Set of the Night
I see a two set, both cute girls but one is a little bit cuter and I’ll call hery HbCurly because she had curly hair. I open indirect with “drunk I love you” opener and transition with “are you giving me shit?”. I bodyrock and give my first impression of them while at the same time disqualifying myself.
SS: (to obstacle) You know what, your friend seems like a really like person. A little bit too nice. (to target) Like if you and I were together we would always argue, and I would always win.
Friend: Ohhh you don’t know her.
Target: Haha, that is so not true….
SS: Is she always like this? Get this [car burning story]
I neg the target some more and then I look for a wing so I can merge. I see none of them in set so I run the set by myself for another 15 minutes. As soon one of them is losing interest, I neg that person, and stack. Went really well.
Throughout the conversation I seed several stuff and then I #close for karaoke. But I didn’t set a real timebridge, I more or less just said that one time we are going to go karaokeing. After the #close I stayed for another 10 minutes, just to make sure the number was solid. I made sure I chrystallized myself so they knew who I really was. Since I couldn’t isolate I couldn’t really qualify my target but I made sure that both girls would invest in the conversation by making cold read, qualification statements and talking in a way that has hooks/open loops.
One thing that didn’t work out so well was that I #closed the obstacle, because the target didn’t have her phone with her. So I’m not sure the target actually knew I was interested in her. So when I called I had the obstacle on the phone. Oh well…having pivots is not a bad idea either. But the obstacle is cute too, I might have to work her then.
Worst Set of the Night
I always say to myself, “I have to approach the hottest girl in the club, no matter the circumstances. If it will lower my social value, it doesn’t matter. I have to approach her.”
So I see the blonde HB9 surrounded by two dudes, but then she leaves them to get a drink. I see my opportunity and grab it. I open with the anorexic opener but I see that she is drunk. I try to run my next routine but she does a backturn on me. Ouch. Oh well, at least I approached the hottest girl.
Sticking Points
I still have AA for super hot girls. I waited a few minutes before I approached the HB9. Next time I should go in within a few seconds. I don’t have problems with HB < 8.5.
Other SP is isolating the target when you don’t have a wing.
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