Social Pancake – Blooming for Success

I talked to a dating coach today about game and he really gave me some good advice. We talked about going solo and I told him I’ve did it a couple of times, but I get bored really fast. Then he gave me some money advice I thought I would share with you guys.

He told me that I probably get bored because I’m not interacting enough with others. Which is true. Whenever I go solo, I have to force myself to open a set as soon I walk in the venue. If I don’t, I freeze up and it takes a while before I open up a set. That advice totally makes sense. Also, if you just go out to pickup girls, it will get boring. He basicly said to be a social guy. Be the social guy. Interact more with strangers. If the girl is cute, then run some game on her. If not, you’re just socializing. Go out solo for a while just to be that social guy and if you see a girl you want, go for it. Otherwise, just be that social guy and try to have a good night by socializing and having interactions with strangers.

I know, I’ve heard the slogan “be social” or “be that social guy” plenty of times. But for some reason, now it CLICKED. There’s a difference in knowing something, and UNDERSTANDING something. Now I understand it. Now I just have to experience it to get a paradigm shift in my game.

So I’m definitely going to try to go more solo and be that social guy. I’m not saying I’m going to ditch my friends and wings, but I definitely want to try to have fun by just interacting with strangers. Just going out to pickup girls gets boring fast, I’ve experienced it plenty of times. But being social with strangers should be a new thing I want to experiment instead of focusing getting a girl. I want to be able to go out solo and be able to have fun with strangers.

Over and out.

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PUA

After the meeting with my wings (discussing sticking points) we headed out to the mall for some day game competition. Most of us have problems escalating in the day time, so I came up with the idea of having a competition with money involved so that will push everyone.

The rules were simple:

#close = 1 pt
#close hired gun = 2 pts
instant-date = 3 pts
instant-date hired gun = 5 pts
kiss = WIN

The one with the most points wins, and gets $1 from everyone.

I pair up with Maui, while Rince and Deelucks pair up. My main wing D would come a bit later. With money involved, people tend to put more effort into it and at the end of the day, that was true.

I get some harsh blowouts I never had before in the day time. My first approach, I try to stop this girl but she gives me this look of “BACK THE FUCK UP” for 0.00001s and walks on. I’m unaffected but usually girls stop and/or leave in a friendly matter. Oh well. Next.

The mall is full of mixed sets, and I still have this SP of approaching them. I try to avoid them because I always think they are together, without knowing it for sure. Maybe I should try to approach 50 mixed sets and then draw conclusions.

Borders is up next. I see Rince in a set with a girl, but I recognize her from somewhere. So interject and talk to the girl. It looked like I was AMOG-ing Rince, and at first that was true because I had that competition mentality. But I always fuck around for fun and then I told her I know him and that’s he a cool dude she should get to know. He #closes her. Nice :)

I see a hot asian girl walking into a store and go in. A sales person talks to her so I wait for an opportunity, and it comes. She is by herself shopping and I go in direct.

SS: Hi, I know this is totally random….but you are the cutest girl I’ve seen all day. Hi I’m ….
HB: Haha thank you. I’m ….
SS: How are you today?

She blushes and gets all red. How cute :) We talk a bit on shopping and I motion her to follow me for compliance testing. She follows and then we get interrupted by a hired gun. I play with her for a bit while my target sees me busting on her. For the instant dates, I always pull out that I’m looking for a present for my best friend (perfume) and that I’m looking for a specific shirt. I ask her if she wants to join and I bounce her out of the store to Sephora.

I do some basic rapport building and demonstrating value on my life, liking talking about our jobs and growing up. Lately I’m trying to tell stories with open loops so she can ask me “stock” questions so I can demonstrate value with stock stories, seems to work especially well in the day time. For me, it feels weird if the interaction is 90/10 the whole time in the day time.

I bounce her out of Sephora to the next store to help look for a store. As we walk to the store, she mentions she can’t stay long. I’m thinking I might have messed up just before that, so I throw out a FTC too. She probably thought I was a player (mistake #1), which was like almost instant death. We get into the store and I talk about how I’m still in school. This turns her off, or that was the feeling I got out of it. She moved to California for work and graduated few years ago. I’m guessing she thought I might be too young for her, and all the associations with that. With that, PLUS thinking I’m a player. So when I go for the #close, it wasn’t on a high note (mistake #2) so she came up with the excuses of not giving number to random people + she has a BF. Doesn’t make any sense after that direct approach, but I understand. And we departed.

One way of looking at this that I shouldn’t hide that I’m a student. Yes, I still go to school (bare with my, just turned 21), and I’m not ashamed of that or anything. The whole “age thing” is a topic I always have to deal with, especially at clubs when I hit on cougars (I love them LOL).

Sometimes I think I could tell a “white lie” just so I can escalate further, but I also feel like it’s not genuine. But then again, a girl should like for me who I am and that I might be younger or whatever is just BS. But I realize the game gives me options, so I shouldn’t fuzz about it too much (for some reason, “fake it till you make it” comes to mind). End rant :P

Next store is Victoria Secret, always target rich. My favorite store after Forever 21, because they are always full with girls. I make eye contact with another hot asian girl and I let her know I saw her. I continue walking to look for other girls, but I decide she’s going to be a lucky girl.

SS: Hi…I know this is totally random, but I noticed you and I had to come over and meet you. Hi I’m …
HB: Awww, I’m … [shake hands]
SS: I would be kicking myself if I didn’t come and say Hi. This is so random! But I had to. How are you today?

Then I transition again how I’m shopping for stuff seeded with my instant date topics. I find out she’s with some of her friends in the store, so I decide to go for the #close instead. We program each other in our phones, I stay a few more minutes and then leave.

Last set was at a sun glass store.

SS: Do these glasses make me look asian?

And I keep it indirect, and out of nowhere I switch up to direct, but didn’t work out too well. I was hovering around her too much thinking what I should say next. It kind of killed the momentum. Lesson learned.

I’m at 4 points and stay there. D and Rince have 1 pt, so I win :) Woooo! Picking up women and making money, that’s a good combo. Afterwards we grabbed some food and headed out to the club.

PS London Soul day game stuff works! All of my stuff is his stuff pretty much.

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FR

I haven’t written a FR in a while, and this one is just for fun. I had a really great time last night and I listen to some trance music (the best music if you need to concentrate and get stuff done!) as I write this. Good times. Good times.

I leave the office after a day of some really productive work and I’m heading to my wing’s crib in Hollywood. He’s getting ready while I pump some trendy trance music of Milk Inc and it puts me in a good state.

SS: Nothing can ruin this day, either way it’s gonna be a great night :)
D: That’s right

As we head out, I get a call. My uncle is stranded at LAX and needs me to pick him up. “Damn, this sucks. Gotta go D, I won’t be coming back. See you tomorrow.” and I head out. My state takes a dip. After I drop him off, it’s 11.30. Hmmmm, I can still go out. So I do.

I race to the club, greet the staff, and everyone that was out with CC. I see so many guys talking to each other about something serious. Yes, I can tell they talk about game. JTR told me many guys were here, probably over 20 “seduction artists”.

We shoot the shit for a bit, I see people opening sets left and right, and I’m wondering what I’m going to do next. Me and JTR will be doing some stuff in the future together so I can’t wait to hangout more with him. We can both learn from each other and every time we do sets, we do our own thing and it works out fine.

A “guru” told I should be focusing on cold approach more and then start working on building a social circle. I take his advice but I haven’t done cold approach in maybe 7 weeks (except for my BC at the SC). In my phone I have a routine stack I can always fall back on, but I decided not to use it and see how far I can get with just “being me”. I’ve tried this approach several times before to test how far I am and see if I have internalized some core principles. Off I go.

So as I’m looking at some sets, I see a gogo dancer taking a break. My mind was blank and on zero, so I just spit out the first thing that comes up. Blowout. I turn around, put a smile on my face, and see who’s the next lucky one. “Game face bro, game face bro” as Wheeler in “Role Models” would say was going through my mind. Now that guy is alpha! Anyway, I decide to wing D.

I take his cute obstacle after pumping the target’s state so D could work her. My mind is still on zero, but things are coming out of my mouth and my body is radiating some glow. Every move I did was almost in slow motion, as I have a smile on my face. Her Mongolian accent was doing it for me, but I started to force frame. As I’m trying to isolate her, with us having very little rapport, she starts asking questions to justify me dragging her away. That has to be some sort of sign; I’ve seen it before.

SS: I like that about you. When I grabbed you to go dance you left your friends and I respect that you’re very independent. I like that. Too bad you’re such a bad dancer.

And she stabs me. I love that feeling of polarity and I keep pushing it.

SS: Wow where was that good girl side of you? If you keep going at it, I can’t buy you that pony anymore.

The pony idea is stolen from Tenmagnet. It’s money. She slaps me more and a little later I have this grin on my face. I pull her face to me so our cheeks touch, her arms are forced over my shoulder, and I start to smell her neck.
SS: Hmmm you smell so familiar.
And the kiss follows. I pull out first and say that’s all she gets. “Lets rejoin our friends” and I work her friend a little bit more with some really basic rapport building. A mix of trying to elicit some values and me relating to her. The last thing I wanted was her being dragged away. That has happened to me too many times.

I get her number, stay a few more minutes, and go on for the next set. I wanted to get some more sets done after I found out the logistics weren’t that great. Oh btw, this set was really easy because my wing D moved her friends all over the place. Bouncing from room to room so much trust was already built before I even came in.

Next is some 2set. I get in but I see another guy talking to the other girl. Fine with me, but she was actually hotter. Hmmm….what to do. I block him off with my body language and talk to the obstacle, but she isn’t having it with her friend being gamed. He was alpha though with his determination, I liked that. Then another guy comes in trying to fuck me up by complimenting my jacket. I blow him off and start story telling how I’m a god to gay guys, which is true. For some reason gay guys always talk to me and compliment me on my style. I’m gay pre-selected! Woooo! Then I switch targets when I address both of them and now the same guy who complimented me takes the obstacle. Haha, cool, at least I have the girl I’m interested in.

All my attraction was all non-verbal. I barely said anything interesting because I was playing around with my body language. I learned this cool movement by Braddock where you have direct eye contact and move into her personal space as you look you’re about to kiss her, and then right before her face you start talking slowly in her ear. It creates so much sexual tension. It’s money. And to test for attraction I would qualify her and then squeeze her hand to see if she squeezes back. She did. Sweet. I had this feeling it was us two in a little bubble so in my mind I had no strategies of what to do next. I wouldn’t say I was in state, my mind was just blank. It felt really weird. I get her number because for some reason I felt like I should to do that. And what’s next is she is being dragged away. She already saw that her friend had the “save me face” and announced it was going to happen. Now this is where the “strategies” SHOULD HAVE come in mind 2 minutes earlier, but my crazy spider senses at least gave me something.

I should have addressed the friend and the guy, for just enough rapport to get some full isolation. I didn’t even go for the isolation, next time. Lesson learned. Oh BTW: turns out that the guys were PUAs too, xaifer and B Bad? Sorry dudes of the AMOG-ing, LOL. I’ll make it up next time winging with you guys, but I’m a really bad wing though ;)

Some more blowouts follow. Gosh, they are so much fun. After every blowout I radiate happiness and it puts a smile on my face. “I just saved myself sooooo much time”

Then I do some dance floor game. This was actually really easy and I used a trick of the club social circle plan I had. At the beginning of the night, I would do my “hurricane” by doing a lot short sets. Open, transition, pumping state, and eject. Did this to lots of sets so they should be warm for reopening. Towards the end of the night, I see some of those sets on the dance floor. I open by bumping their ass with my ass and it’s game on. I see girls start dancing around me as I do little flash game on the dance floor. It’s good to know salsa! Great for doing some flash game on the floor and get the attention of other girls. Midways of a song I would jump to the next set in proximity to use that social proof and preselection to my advantage. The hardest part of dance floor game is getting that first girl to dance with you. Once you have one, you can use her as a pawn to get to dance with other girls. It’s ridiculously easy then. Every girl I danced with, I tried to go for the kiss within a minute but I got rejected every time, but they all kept dancing. I need to fix this SP asap.

Then I head out with D. We meetup with cyse, JTR, SteamRoller, Black Knight, and Lord of Allure to get some chicken and waffles. The place was packed so we decided to go old school and go to Pink’s, some famous hot dog stand. After we shoot the shit more we bounce to the next place for some pizzas. “You only live once” was our justification to pig ourselves.

Good time. Good times.

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FR

Just a quick note. Lately I’ve been putting up pickup audio again on my iPhone. I don’t read any material anymore, but I like to listen to some pickup advice. One of my favorite audio series is the Love Systems interview series. Next to that are the interviews by David D.

But right now I’m listening to some DJ Tiesto :)

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Random

This is a semi field report. It reflects my ideas on club social circle game and my experience last night. Sorry if my thoughts come across as disorganized, because there are so many ideas going on that I wanted to write this asap before I forget.

My wing D and I are still working on our club social circle, and every Saturday we hit up the same spot. We know the staff, get free drinks, and love the place. We love to do missions at that place because the place is big and there are so many people. Instead of just opening sets and seeing how far we can take the interaction, we setup little missions to accomplish certain goals.

Last night we started with “25 sets in 5 minutes” where you have to 1) touch the target 2) open her and 3) get an response. Simple as that. This mission is great if you want to overcome AA, but that was not our goal. We wanted to see which girls are warm to be approached by using a simple opener as “How is it going?”, “Hi” or “You guys look like fun”. It’s the same idea of Captain Jack’s LIO (Low Investment Opener). You use the absolute minimum and see how far you can get with your calibration.

When we both did these missions, we would see a lot of sets get opened easily and were warm to be approached. But since we were on a time limit, we had to eject those sets and move on to the next set. The result? After the 5 minutes, we tried to remember which sets were warm and we find them to re-open them. The problem is sometimes you won’t find those sets at the same spot anymore, but we’ve found a solution for this that will turn in a strategy we need to field test next time.

Essentially what we are doing is to filter ASAP which girls want to be seduced, like CJ said. There will be so many girls that will fend you off, but guess what? You saved yourself another couple of minutes of plowing. The club has so many other girls that want to be approached, you just have to find them. It’s the same idea of going to 200 girls and saying “Want to fuck?”. Yes you play the numbers game. If you do this every night you should be able to pull. With the same idea in mind, this way we try find girls that want to be opened, have a talk with us, and easily put them in our social circle. The latter is important because we want to be able to take girls out to clubs in large numbers to get social proof and preselection before we enter a venue.

At the same time, you’re building social proof and working the club. It’s “short setting” the room where you basicly open so many sets that in a short period of time, stay in briefly, and once you find those sets again, you will be in the set with ease. I think most people who have been doing this for a while know how easy it is to open sets once you have social proof. It’s ridiculously easy.

This is what I noticed and experimented last night. I go machine gun style opening sets with simple openers till one set hooks. I stay in maximum 2 minutes by cold reading and doing some IVD. On a high note, I leave the set and again go machine gun style looking for the set that hooks. Same thing again, cold reading and IVD, eject. After a while, I noticed girls kept following and eying me. I guess it’s a form of jealousy plotline, but I didn’t have that in mind at all. Once I caught them looking, I smile at them and go on. Once I reopened those sets, everything else in set was a breeze.

So what else happened last night? D did the mission and he sees this 5set of all girls. He shakes all their hands, cold reads one of them and leaves for the next set. Few minutes later, one of those girls re-opens us and wants to talk to D. Turns out that she was DTF but the logistics just didn’t work out. I got opened several times by warm sets and was running game at 110%. That’s the beauty of “warm sets”, you already have some value and once you get reopened, you can go at full speed and get the girls invest in you. Then the rest is soooo easy, like parading the venue, getting girls to open other sets for you, etc. Basicly pawning and pivoting warm sets to get even more girls.

If you think about it, all D and I need is each to get a solid number each night. When we do this enough times over a period and once we all get these girls out to one venue we have massive social proof and preselection already. Heck, if you all you do is collect digits all night and you know at least how to minimize flaking (that’s an art form LOL), you can play the same numbers game. Over time, you’ll have so many numbers that someone will be down to go out with you again. In fact, we did that when we started out with our “plan”. D had 100+ numbers over the last couple of months. We did a mass text and sure enough, a few girls came out that same night to the club. Imagine you have more solid numbers. If two guys roll in with 10+ girls, even though you might not be fucking one of them, all the people who observe you think you are.

Last night we had so many ideas and things going on that we actually didn’t do that many sets. All these ideas and strategies we came up are something we wrote down as soon we left the club. Next time it’s again us two crazy social scientists trying to perfect club social circle game.

Yeah, it’s not sexy. We’re not trying to pull every night, but we are thinking long-term. Once we have that club social circle running that’s when we try to pull girls left and right. We believe that it will pay off.

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FR